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While cruising one of my favorite, up to date and insightful websites I came across an interesting exchange. The thread was about the "Retraction" made by the White House over the bald faced lie to both Congress and the American people that helped to launch thousands of deaths in Iraq. Specifically the Niger Forgeries Bush presented as fact tho many knew then and it's coming out that HE knew as well they were faked. So he lied. Knowingly. Here's the exchange I read today that I think is VERY Useful: ************************************************* Making statements about sexual affairs
in sleazeball investigations is not a duty of the President. Yet, when
President Clinton lied about a sexual affair, he was impeached ********************************************* We're not lawyers but this sure looks like a reasonable legal rationale for IMPEACHMENT. While we're at it CHENEY made pretty much the same OATH. Now, remember that there's a whole lot of WAR PROFITEERING, Nepotism and Shady Business deals involved - a big shot here for any Actual Journalist to get a Pulitzer or better. Let's hear from some legal scholars on this. Remember what the Drumbeat was by the right wing during their Impeachment of President Clinton? "It's not about the Sex, it's about the LYING." Well, then - Let's Update that mantra and use it. "It's not about the WAR - It's about the LYING." In the Meantime write/call/email your Congressman or Senator and/or any Media outlet you can and tell them that BUSH LIED UNDER OATH. He did. He swore an OATH and LIED to CONGRESS During an OFFICIAL DUTY. It's just that simple. Pass the Word. UPDATE: A LAWYER BRINGS MEAT TO THE TABLE: The Case for Impeachment The wheels are really coming off Bush & Co.'s case for the Iraqi war. In particular, little reasonable doubt can remain that Mr. Bush did not know the following statement, made during his 2003 State of the Union Address, was a lie: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. ... Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide." The administration claims that the statement was not a lie, because it was "technically" correct. In other words, the statement supposedly gave a truthful accounting of the British position. The administration's hyper-technical approach to lying is still lying: The American intelligence community, along with the White House, had long known the information was false. As such, Mr. Bush could not truthfully maintain the British had "learned" information he knew was false -- particularly in light of the fact that he intended to mislead Congress into believing the information. Did Mr. Bush commit an impeachable offense when he knowingly used false information to convince Congress and the American people to support a war with Iraq" The President can be removed only upon impeachment by the House of Representatives and conviction by the Senate. Impeachment and trial can rest only on "Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." (U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4.) Since Mr. Bush seems to have lied to Congress, then he apparently violated at least two federal statutes. Each violation is a felony, a "High Crime" punishable by impeachment. 18 USC section 1001 provides that in matters within federal jurisdiction, any person who "knowingly and willfully (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact; (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or (3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both." In matters involving Congress, the statute applies to any "document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch . . . ." The State of the Union address is "a document required by law . . .to be submitted to the Congress." Article II, Section III of the U.S. Constitution states: "The President . . . shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." If Mr. Bush lied in his State of the Union address to convince Congress to support him in war, he may have violated 18 USC 1001 several ways. For instance, lying about non-existent uranium purchases would falsify, conceal or cover up a material fact " that the purchase never occurred. Lying also obviously violates section 2 of the statute: "makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation". Knowing reliance upon the forged documents would violate section 3 of the statute: "uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry". Lies contained in the State of the Union address would also violate the federal anti-conspiracy statute, because the lie would come about through the efforts of many people. That statute, 18 USC section 371, criminalizes acts by two or more people who conspire "either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy. . . ." Violations of the federal anti-conspiracy statute are punishable by a fine and imprisonment not to exceed 5 years. A strong legal case for impeachment exists. However, impeachment is only quasi-legal. Impeachment is really a political act. Therefore, the question arises whether these kinds of crimes " the result of lying " should be the basis for presidential impeachment. Given Republican control of Congress, Republican beliefs regarding presidential lying are of real import. Here is what several Republicans said to Congress in the context of Mr. Clinton"s impeachment: Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA) , on Friday, said in Congress on December 11, 1998: "When asked to name the single most important gift
America had given the world, Daniel Webster replied, "The integrity
of George Washington." How many of us have wondered, as a child,
holding a shiny new quarter in our hand, why the profile of George Washington
adorns more coin and paper money than any other national figure's Integrity.
. . . Rep. Charles Canady (R-FL), said in Congress on December 10, 1998: "A constitution is often a most inconvenient thing.
A constitution limits us when we would not be limited. It compels us
to act when we would not act. But our Constitution, as all of us in
this room acknowledge, is the heart and soul of the American experiment.
It is the glory of the political world. And we are here today because
the Constitution requires that we be here. We are here because the Constitution
grants the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. We
are here because the impeachment power is the sole constitutional means
granted to Congress to deal with the misconduct of the chief executive
of the United States. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said to Congress on December 11, 1998: "Should he be impeached" Very quickly; the
hardest decision I think I will ever make. Learning that the president
lied to the grand jury about sex, I still believe that every president
of the United States, regardless of the matter they called to testify
about before a grand jury should testify truthfully and if they don't
they should be subject to losing their job. Henry Hyde (R-Ill.) said to Congress on December 11, 1998: "This vote says something about us. It answers the question, just who are we, and what do we stand for" Is the president one of us, or is he a sovereign? We vote for our honor, which is the only thing we get to take with us to the grave." Each of these Republican Congressmen were arguing for Mr. Clinton"s removal from office for purportedly committing perjury in a sexual harassment case. However, the federal court had ruled that Mr. Clinton's testimony regarding his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky was not material to that case. In other words, these Congressmen strongly believed that lying under oath to immaterial matters were a proper basis for removing the Chief Executive " and the House of Representatives agreed. If Republicans believe Mr. Clinton's purported misdeeds were the stuff of impeachment and removal from office, then what of Mr. Bush's lies? Rather than lying about immaterial matters, Mr. Bush lied about the most important matters imaginable, whether to send Americans to their deaths while killing citizens of another country. If Mr. Clinton should have been removed from office for his purported lies, then Mr. Bush " if he really did lie " should be removed from office and subsequently prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Copyright © Frank Bloksberg 2003, All Rights Reserved
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